3.6 Pentastar?

Which drivetrain to choose, so many choices, 4-cyl? 6-cyl? NA? Turbo?
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3.6 Pentastar?

Postby Bendiesel » 27 Feb 2015, 20:21

Any thoughts from any one on using a pentastar engine?
Wiring would be a pita. But.... they come in almost every thing and make a minimum of 283hp stock. Up to 305 and
on 87 octane. are extremely light. also 6 speed and 9 speed fwd (zf9hp being 16 lbs lighter and only a 1/4 inch wider)
No shift linkage or clutch pedal. 90% of torque is available from 1,800 to 6,350 rpm.

http://www.pentastars.com/engines/tech.php
for a quick read.

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Re: 3.6 Pentastar?

Postby JohnHancock » 27 Feb 2015, 21:31

Does it come in a front wheel drive? The picture doesn't look like it.

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Re: 3.6 Pentastar?

Postby freakynami » 27 Feb 2015, 22:58

It looks like a reasonably compact V6, so should work well. As mentioned above, a transverse gearbox would be required, not impossible to adapt but much simpler if the engine did come out in a car as FWD in some form...

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Re: 3.6 Pentastar?

Postby Bendiesel » 28 Feb 2015, 05:34

O yes it comes front wheel drive. It is the only engine option for the dodge caravan Since 2011 and comes with a 6 speed automatic fwd. Also came front wheel drive in the avenger, journey and chrysler 200 has a compact 9 speed fwd. I have seen
engines and transmissions on ebay go for 2000-3000. In the near future you will be able to get them from junk yards for 400 with tranny. it helps alot that it is the only engine tranny combo for 5 years straight so far in the dodge caravan which is made in very large numbers. But it comes as the only v6 in over 10 Other vehicles with the 3.2l being the excption. But is the same block. Also there is now a super charger and tuning available.
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Re: 3.6 Pentastar?

Postby Bendiesel » 28 Feb 2015, 05:51

Some info on the nine speed. Which is very new.
The 9HP is only 0.24 inches (6mm) longer than and weighs 16.5 lbs (7.5 kg) less than the outgoing six-speed transmission. The compact packaging is achieved by using a number of innovative design features: A new compact hydraulic vane-type pump, two patented dog clutches which replace bulkier conventional clutch packs, and a nested gear set.[2]

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Re: 3.6 Pentastar?

Postby Bendiesel » 28 Feb 2015, 08:34

"The Pentastar architecture further distinguishes itself with flexibility that can best be described as “plug-and-play.” With little or no modification, it can accommodate longitudinal and transverse orientations; front-wheel-, rear-wheel-, all-wheel- and four-wheel-drive systems; 6-speed manual transmissions and and 6-, 8- and 9-speed automatic transmissions."

Another link if any one is Intrested over 3 million made from 2011 to 2013 and still going.



http://media.chrysler.com/newsrelease.d ... 064&mid=97

The engine just needs the ultralight chassis it deserves.
Ok I bought the book because I think it would be awesome to have a pentastar midlana lol.

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Re: 3.6 Pentastar?

Postby Midlana1 » 28 Feb 2015, 09:00

Any idea what it weighs? Anything more than around 450lbs/205kgs (engine, tranny, and all accessories) is putting a lot of weight at the back for a track car. One approach is to move the battery and fuel tank to the front, but there simply isn't much to shift around to offset an overly heavy engine.

In the early days of F1, they pushed as much weight to the rear as possible. It worked great - but the pilot had to know how to exploit the rear weight bias. Put someone in the car who's only driven FWD cars and they'll go off the turn backwards. It'll take some training.

OTOH, if it's a cruiser, it shouldn't be an issue.

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Re: 3.6 Pentastar?

Postby Bendiesel » 28 Feb 2015, 09:11

9 speed transmission spec
(length x depth x
height = 367 mm x
621 mm x 428 mm)
weight of 86 kg
(189 lbs.) including oil

engine spec
503mm long 19.8 inches
The block weighs just 77 lb (not much more than the four-cylinder 2.4). The crankshaft weighs 43 lb; the cylinder heads, 27 (bare). With valves, the heads weigh around 31 lb also the heads have the exhaust manifolds cast in. Intake and valve covers are nylon. No brackets every thing bolts to engine. I haven't found a fully dressed weight yet but am still searching.

So far up to 371 lbs
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Re: 3.6 Pentastar?

Postby Bendiesel » 28 Feb 2015, 10:17

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The DIG-T R’s base engine is 500 mm tall x 400 mm long x 200 mm wide (19.68 x 15.74 x 7.78 in), but it puts out power like a fire hose at 400 bhp (298 kW) and 380 Nm (280 ft-lb) of torque. Nissan points out though this is small enough to fit inside the luggage guides found at check in, at 40 kg (88 lb), the DIG-T R is too heavy to be considered as a carry-on. That works out to 10 bhp per kilo, which Nissan says is better than the new engines approved for the FIA Formula 1 World Championship this year.

would be nice but not common
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Re: 3.6 Pentastar?

Postby bgkast » 02 Mar 2015, 15:57

It's probably not much heavier than my cast-iron 2.4 turbo Chrysler engine. I would love to see a V6 build.

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