Engine Choice?

Which drivetrain to choose, so many choices, 4-cyl? 6-cyl? NA? Turbo?
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Engine Choice?

Postby steve » 05 Apr 2014, 07:07

As I know Ford zetec engines inside out now having had about 10 of the things through my garage it was my motor of choice.

Our Focus ST170 over here in blighty came with 170bhp and a 6 speed getrag box..

But now I see someone close is selling a Seat Leon Cupra R motor.. This is basically a VW 1.8L turbo with a 6 speeder attached and comes as standard with 225 bhp..

So now my thinking falls to the 20v 1.8Turbo VAG engine as there is a huge amount of tuning options availabe over here. All the way to mega££££ 800bhp...

The other option is again a VAG engine, the 1.9tdi.. turbo upgrades and a cam on the PD150 variant give these motors 400bhp 400ft/lb and do 40mpg...

Oh dear..

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Re: Engine Choice?

Postby jaxmadine » 05 Apr 2014, 18:35

Do what you will. But I personally despise vag cars. The electronics are horrid.

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Re: Engine Choice?

Postby WickedOne » 05 Apr 2014, 20:40

I agree about their electronics in spades, BUT I seem to remember that at least some of them separate the engine computers & wiring from the problematic rest of the system.

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Re: Engine Choice?

Postby b33fy » 06 Apr 2014, 03:38

I went the subaru route in my last car, not that simple and tuning parts expensive compared to ford. VAG engines are ok I've run a 170PD, 170CR currently a 20TSFSI and a 184CR. The cost of tuning and complex wiring puts me off Not sure about the power figures you are quoting, probably at the top end of the engines ability and would be highly stressed. The 1.8T is ok for a reliable 350-400bho and the 130PD realistically atound 270BHP Gone duratec route this time as well supported and loads of parts out there. Simple and well supported is best in my book. Why not stick with what you know and Turbo the Zetec? (all imo)

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Re: Engine Choice?

Postby steve » 06 Apr 2014, 11:09

Hi Beefy, yes I was planning on a turbo zetec, I wanted one in my last kit, an MNR Votx.

Thing is the Cupra BAM engine has 225 bhp as standard and a stage 1 Revo chip up makes it 270!

The BAM engine has a forged bottom end as standard and getting a zetec up to that spec is in the £2k region.

Plus the BAM engine is used in the Audi TT and comes with a 6 speed box, which while not as strong as the 5 speeder its blingy.. yes?

And, the low weight and MASS of kits makes it much better.

I had a ST170 in my MNR with 180bhp and a standard 1.6 Mondeo clutch. No end of fast starts side stepping the clutch never made it grumble one bit!

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Re: Engine Choice?

Postby b33fy » 07 Apr 2014, 09:01

I think your minds pretty much made up, all bar the shouting Steve :) If I were to look at engine options again, I would seriously consider a 5 cylinder focus ST or a Jag V6 from an X type. Both mid 200's out the box and can get to 300ish without too much grief, both with a good sound track.

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Re: Engine Choice?

Postby bgkast » 07 Apr 2014, 10:38

I'd do the zetec and a 5 speed. Never been a fan of 6 speeds myself.

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Re: Engine Choice?

Postby jaxmadine » 11 Apr 2014, 05:32

most six speeds have the same ratio on the final gear, rather pointless in my book. we want real overdrive in our 4 banger!

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Re: Engine Choice?

Postby steve » 11 Apr 2014, 13:41

The other ting that puts me off the zetec is the exhaust is on the front but the BAM engine has it on the back which I like more.. No heat down between the engine and me and the fuel tank.

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Re: Engine Choice?

Postby Beardy » 12 Apr 2014, 09:09

Just as a thought, and no more than a point of consideration, the front exhaust may have an advantage: The tank can be shielded and having a front exhaust means that you could pull it out the side and run it forwards along the side of the car. There aren't many things you can move around to change the weight distribution; battery, tanks, various reservoirs and the exhaust...


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