It looks like it could fit...

Which drivetrain to choose, so many choices, 4-cyl? 6-cyl? NA? Turbo?
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It looks like it could fit...

Postby Laminar » 11 Jan 2014, 08:24

Now clearly it's important to have the actual engine/trans combo in place before actually building the frame, but it looks like it could fit.

Frame is per book dimensions. Engine is everything Kurt said to avoid - rare, unusual, and no aftermarket.

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I have yet to find dimensions for the transaxle to see how badly that messes everything up, but I like where this is going.

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Re: It looks like it could fit...

Postby Laminar » 11 Jan 2014, 08:28

I think the alternative X-brace rear in figure 22.2 might be a better option for getting the engine in and out. I also really should model the tubing from the suspension subframe to the upper frame tubes to check for interference there. The engine could definitely be moved left to right.

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Re: It looks like it could fit...

Postby jaxmadine » 11 Jan 2014, 09:39

Gm v6?

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Re: It looks like it could fit...

Postby Laminar » 11 Jan 2014, 12:40

Ford V8 ;)

I'm hesitant to go into too much detail for fear of being another dead-end link for people searching about the engine, but I think it'd be cool. My car will be 99% cruiser and I want a V8 :D . Total engine dry weight with intake and exhaust manifolds and all accessories is 374lb (two sources verify that within 10lbs). Pulling power steering and AC loses 15lb, another 12lb in useless add-ons can be pulled as well getting it under 350. That's on par with an I-4 with turbo, intercooler, and piping (but the V8 makes much less power, so... ;) ).

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Re: It looks like it could fit...

Postby carlm » 12 Jan 2014, 10:11

This wouldn't be a certain aluminum block DOHC Ford V-8 as used in certain Lincolns, would it? Because, if so, I will be very interested in following your progress since I have access to one of these.

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Re: It looks like it could fit...

Postby bgkast » 12 Jan 2014, 12:19

I'll believe that weight when I see it on a scale. ;) My turbo 4 weighs 375, although that is with oil

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Re: It looks like it could fit...

Postby Laminar » 12 Jan 2014, 16:13

carlm wrote:This wouldn't be a certain aluminum block DOHC Ford V-8 as used in certain Lincolns, would it? Because, if so, I will be very interested in following your progress since I have access to one of these.


They had a similar 3.9V8 used in the LS and in the "retro" Thunderbird in auto-only RWD configuration. They also had a 32V 4.6 auto-only in the Continental in FWD configuration. This is the 3.4 from the '96-'99 SHO. Between the cam failures, terrible automatic transmission, and heat-related ignition coil failures (that required removal of the UIM to access), what could have been a great engine got a pretty poor reputation.
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Re: It looks like it could fit...

Postby Laminar » 12 Jan 2014, 16:13

bgkast wrote:I'll believe that weight when I see it on a scale. ;) My turbo 4 weighs 375, although that is with oil


http://www.v8sho.com/SHO/v8enginewt.htm

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Re: It looks like it could fit...

Postby bgkast » 12 Jan 2014, 19:15

Looks like they forgot the flex plate and torque.converter or flywheel. I'm surprised it's that light though.

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Re: It looks like it could fit...

Postby Laminar » 12 May 2014, 10:59

And now one of these engines has popped up on my local CL for dirt cheap. Except I'm out of town for the next two weeks. Just my luck. :D


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